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Each demon has slots for 2 Attack skills, 2 Support skills, and 1 Combo skill. Skills within one of these skill types have a set priority order depending on property, with skills of a lower number being inherited before higher-numbered skills.
Each demon has slots for 2 Attack skills, 2 Support skills, and 1 Combo skill. Skills within one of these types have a set priority order depending on inherit type, with skills of a lower number being inherited before higher-numbered skills.


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Skill inheritance is a recurring gameplay mechanic in several games in the Megami Tensei franchise that dictates how skills are passed from one Demon or Persona to another during fusion.

Overview

When fusing Demons in places like the Cathedral of Shadows or the Velvet Room, the player will either be able to select which skills that the resulting Demon will inherit from its reagents, or the inherited skills will be selected at random.

Some skills are exclusive to specific Demons, such as Alice's Die For Me! or Yoshitsune's Hassou Tobi, and cannot be inherited during fusion.

Mechanics by Game

Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne, Persona 3, Persona 4

In these games, inherited skills are chosen at random, but can be rerolled as many times as needed by backing out of the fusion menu and selecting the reagent Demons again.

Shin Megami Tensei IV, Shin Megami Tensei V, Persona 5, Persona 5 Royal

In these games, inherited skills can be manually selected.

Shin Megami Tensei IV

Demons can inherit exclusive skills when performing fusion with the Demon Fusion Lite app.

Persona 5 Royal

Like skills, most Traits can be inherited by Personas, except for the traits of DLC Personas, and Ultimate Vessel, which is exclusive to Treasure Demons.

Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner

Only magic can be inherited, meaning that extra skills cannot be inherited.

There are 16 inheritance types. If one of the ingredient demons has the same inheritance type as the resulting demon, all magic can be passed down from that demon. Otherwise, it is limited by the following table.[1] Inheritance type names are taken from the official PSP strategy guide, aside from Zoma, which is not mentioned in the guide.

Type Inheritable Magic
Megido
メギド
Mabufula, Mazionga, Mapsio, Hanma, Hamaon, Mudoon, Megido, Megidola, recovery and support magic
Fire
火炎
Agi, Agilao, Maragi, Maragilao, Psio, Mapsio, Mudola, Dormina, Shibaboo, Shuff, Shuffle, Sipani, Makafuji, Rakunda, Traesto, Liftoma, recovery and support magic
Ice
氷結
Bufu, Bufula, Mabufu, Mabufula, Zanma, Hanma, Hamaon, Mudo, Mudoon, Dormina, Marin Karin, Shibaboo, Tarunda, Sukunda, recovery and support magic
Electricity
電撃
Bufu, Zio, Zionga, Mazio, Mazionga, Mazan, Psi, Mapsio, Mudo, Shibaboo, Makafuji, Rakunda, Sukunda, recovery and support magic
Force
衝撃
Agi, Bufu, Zan, Zanma, Mazan, Mazanma, Hama, Marin Karin, Shibaboo, Shuffle, Kyou, Sipani, Makafuji, Rakunda, Sukunda, Dekaja, Estoma, Liftoma, recovery and support magic
Psychokinesis
念動
Agilao, Mabufula, Mazio, Zan, Psi, Psio, Mapsi, Mapsio, Mudo, Dormina, Marin Karin, Shibaboo, Shuffle, Shuffler, Hakyou, Sikyou, Hapirma, Makafuji, Tarunda, Rakunda, Dekaja, Traesto, recovery and support magic
Temperature
温度全般
Agilao, Maragi, Mabufu, Mazio, Zanma, Dormina, Hakyou, recovery and support magic
Expel
破魔
Maragi, Mazio, Hama, Hanma, Hamaon, Estoma, recovery and support magic
Death
呪殺
Maragi, Maragion, Mabufula, Mazanma, Mapsi, Mapsio, Mudo, Mudola, Mudoon, Dormina, Shuffler, Makafuji, Traesto, Liftoma, recovery and support magic
Physical
物理
Maragion, Dormina, Shibaboo, Shuffler, Sikyou, Sipani, Hapirma, Tarunda, Dekaja, Traesto, Estoma, Liftoma, recovery and support magic
Recovery (A)
回復(A)
Maragion, Mabufu, Zan, Mapsi, Marin Karin, Shuff, Kyou, Sikyou, Sipani, Hapirma, Makafuji, Tarunda, Rakunda, recovery and support magic
Recovery (B)
回復(B)
Dormina, Marin Karin, Shibaboo, Shuff, Sipani, Hapirma, Tarunda, Sukunda, Dekaja, Traesto, Liftoma, recovery and support magic
Element
精霊
Recovery and support magic
Mitama
御魂
Recovery and support magic
Hero
英雄
Recovery and support magic
Zoma
造魔
All magic

There is a priority hierarchy of races for inheritance, where the demon with a higher priority race will pass on its magic first:[2]

  1. Deity
  2. Megami
  3. Enigma
  4. Fury
  5. Lady
  6. Kishin
  7. Vile
  8. Reaper
  9. Genma
  10. Yoma
  11. Fairy
  12. Night
  13. Tyrant
  14. Herald
  15. Divine
  16. Fallen
  17. Dragon
  18. Snake
  19. Drake
  20. Avian
  21. Flight
  22. Raptor
  23. Avatar
  24. Holy
  25. Beast
  26. UMA
  27. Wilder
  28. Jirae
  29. Brute
  30. Femme
  31. Jaki
  32. Element
  33. Mitama
  34. Haunt
  35. Spirit
  36. Undead
  37. Tree
  38. Wood
  39. Vermin
  40. Foul
  41. Hero
  42. Zoma

Within the races, demons with the same inheritance type as the result have a higher priority to pass on their magic.[1]

Lastly, there is also a priority list where certain skills have a higher inheritance priority:[1][3]

  1. Megidolaon
  2. Megidola
  3. Megido
  4. Maragion
  5. Mabufula
  6. Mazionga
  7. Mazanma
  8. Mapsio
  9. Hamaon
  10. Mudoon
  11. Maragi
  12. Mabufu
  13. Mazio
  14. Mazan
  15. Mapsi
  16. Hanma
  17. Mudola
  18. Agilao
  19. Bufula
  20. Zionga
  21. Zanma
  22. Psio
  23. Hama
  24. Mudo
  25. Agi
  26. Bufu
  27. Zio
  28. Zan
  29. Psi
  30. Shuffler
  31. Sikyou
  32. Shuffle
  33. Hakyou
  34. Shuff
  35. Kyou
  36. Dekaja
  37. Tarunda
  38. Rakunda
  39. Sukunda
  40. Dormina
  41. Marin Karin
  42. Shibaboo
  43. Sipani
  44. Hapirma
  45. Makafuji
  46. Recarmdra
  47. Samarecarm
  48. Recarm
  49. Mediarahan
  50. Diarahan
  51. Mediarama
  52. Diarama
  53. Media
  54. Dia
  55. Petradi
  56. Paraladi
  57. Posumudi
  58. Me Patra
  59. Patra
  60. Phasdi
  61. Charmdi
  62. Closdi
  63. Metamodi
  64. Tarukaja
  65. Rakukaja
  66. Sukukaja
  67. Makakaja
  68. Dekunda
  69. Tetraja
  70. Tetrakarn
  71. Makarakarn
  72. Traesto
  73. Estoma
  74. Sabbath
  75. Liftoma
  76. Mapper
  77. Necroma

Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha vs. the Soulless Army

There are 10 inheritance types, determining the priority of skills a demon will inherit based on the skill's property. The names are taken from the English and Japanese versions of the official strategy guide.

Type 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Phys
戦士
Phys Almighty Death Mind Fire Ice Elec Force Recovery
Recovery
白魔
Recovery Mind Almighty Fire Ice Elec Force Phys Death
Fire
火炎
Fire Mind Almighty Death Recovery Elec Force Phys Ice
Ice
氷結
Ice Mind Almighty Death Recovery Force Elec Phys Fire
Elec
電撃
Elec Mind Almighty Death Recovery Fire Ice Phys Force
Force
衝撃
Force Mind Almighty Death Recovery Ice Fire Phys Elec
Death
死者
Death Phys Mind Fire Ice Elec Force Almighty Recovery
Mind
魔女
Mind Death Almighty Force Fire Ice Elec Recovery Phys
Almighty 1
賢者
Almighty Recovery Fire Ice Elec Force Mind Death Phys
Almighty 2
天使
Almighty Recovery Phys Mind Fire Ice Elec Force Death

Each demon has slots for 2 Attack skills, 2 Support skills, and 1 Combo skill. Skills within one of these types have a set priority order depending on inherit type, with skills of a lower number being inherited before higher-numbered skills.

Order Attack Skills
Phys Recovery Fire Ice Elec Force Death Mind
1 Mighty Blow Diarahan Maragidyne Mabufudyne Maziodyne Mazandyne Mamudo Petra
2 Frenzy Diarama Hellfire Cocytus Bolt Storm Tempest Mudo Dormina
3 Winged Fury Media Agidyne Bufudyne Ziodyne Zandyne Marin Karin
4 Berserker Dia Aura Blaze Frostbite Spark Flurry Makajam
5 Venomstrike Tarukaja Maragi Mabufu Mazio Mazan Pulinpa
6 Combo Rakukaja Agi Bufu Zio Zan
7 Makakaja
8 War Cry
9 Makara Aura
10 Tetra Aura
11 Dia
12 Patra
13 Recarm
14 Samarecarm
Order Combo Skills
Phys Fire Ice Elec Force Death Mind Almighty
1 Fiery Spiral Fire Breath Glacial Blast Shock Wave Wind Cutter Null Death Null Mind Astral Burst
2 Frigid Spin Fire Drain Ice Drain Elec Drain Force Drain
3 Voltaic Ring Fireball Frozen Lance Thunderbolt Hurricane
4 Gale Slash Null Fire Null Ice Null Elec Null Force
5 Vile Storm
6 Raging Blast
7 Cross Slash
8 Rush
9 Phys Drain
10 Null Phys
11 Flame Shot
12 Freeze Shot
13 Shock Shot
14 Blast Shot
15 Bane Shot
Order Support Skills
1 Regenerate
2 First Aid
3 Curse
4 Phys Resist
5 Mana Surge
6 Life Surge
7 Endure
8 Hex
9 Retribution
10 Mana Gain
11 Life Gain
12 Fire Boost
13 Ice Boost
14 Elec Boost
15 Force Boost
16 Devotion
17 Money Find
18 Item Find
19 Quick Study
20 Fire Resist
21 Ice Resist
22 Elec Resist
23 Force Resist
24 Hero's Might
25 Mage's Might
26 Heal Boost
27 Mind Boost
28 Mana Bonus
29 Fast Escape
30 Life Bonus

In addition, the different Moon Phases can have an effect on skill inheritance:
During a New Moon no skills will be inherited, and the fused demon will have its default skills.
During a Waxing or Waning Moon the demon will keep its default skills, but will also inherit the support skill of one of its ingredients (depending on which moon it is) to the empty support skill slot.

Persona 3 Portable

In Portable, Personas have inheritance types, and within each inheritance type are weights that determine how likely a Persona is to inherit a skill of a certain skill type. For example, a Slash inheritance Persona is more likely to inherit Slash skills than Support skills.

Inheritance
Types
Slash
Skills
Strike
Skills
Pierce
Skills
Fire
Skills
Ice
Skills
Elec
Skills
Wind
Skills
Light
Skills
Darkness
Skills
Almighty
Skills
Recovery
Skills
Support
Skills
Special
Skills
Charm
Skills
Distress
Skills
Confuse
Skills
Fear
Skills
Rage
Skills
Poison
Skills
Slash 119 15 15 3 3 3 15
Strike 15 119 15 3 3 3 15
Pierce 15 15 119 3 3 3 15
Fire 3 3 3 119 15 15 3 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15
Ice 3 3 3 119 15 15 3 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15
Elec 3 3 3 119 15 15 3 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15
Wind 3 3 3 119 15 15 3 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15
Light 3 3 3 3 119 3 15 15 15
Dark 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 119 3 3 15 15 15 15 15 15
Light and Dark 3 3 3 3 57 57 3 3 3 15 3 3 3 3 3 3
Recovery 15 15 15 15 3 15 119 57 15 3 3 3 3 3 3
Ailment 3 3 3 3 15 3 15 15 57 57 57 57 57 57
Everything 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15

Persona 4

In Persona 4, inherited skills cannot be selected. The number of skills that the Persona can inherit is based on the total number of different skills between all the Personas being fused.

Fused Personas Skills # of Inheritable Skills
0-9 2
10-15 3
16-34 4
35+ 5

Each Persona has an inheritance type, and within each inheritance type, and each category of skills has a weight. Higher weight means that the Persona is more likely to inherit a skill of that type. For example, a Persona with fire inheritance is far more likely to inherit a fire skill than a recovery skill.

Inheritance
Types
Phys
Skills
Fire
Skills
Ice
Skills
Elec
Skills
Wind
Skills
Almighty
Skills
Light
Skills
Dark
Skills
Ailment
Skills
Recovery
Skills
Support
Skills
Passive
Skills
Phys 144 8 6 6 12 22 6
Fire 10 114 6 6 3 15 15 15 6 6 6
Ice 10 114 6 6 3 15 15 15 6 6 6
Elec 10 6 6 114 3 15 15 15 6 6 6
Wind 10 6 6 114 3 15 15 15 6 6 6
Almighty 3 15 15 15 15 119 15 15 8 3 3 6
Light 15 15 15 15 12 117 42 22 6
Darkness 15 15 15 15 6 117 12 6 6
Ailment 3 3 3 3 5 9 32 6 6
Recovery 18 18 18 18 12 12 3 120 22 6
Support 15 12 12 12 12 6 12 5 5 32 120 6

Persona 4 Golden

In Persona 4 Golden, inherited skills can be manually selected. The number of skills that the player can select is based on the total number of different skills between all the Personas being fused.

Fused Personas Skills # of Inheritable Skills
0-5 1
6-8 2
9-11 3
12-23 4
24+ 5

Which types of skills can be selected are determined based on an inheritance type that each Persona has. Due to the player being allowed to select which skills, the Almighty and Support inheritances from Persona 4 functionally became the same in Golden.

Inheritance
Types
Phys
Skills
Fire
Skills
Ice
Skills
Elec
Skills
Wind
Skills
Almighty
Skills
Light
Skills
Dark
Skills
Ailment
Skills
Recovery
Skills
Support
Skills
Passive
Skills
Phys
Fire
Ice
Elec
Wind
Almighty
and Support
Light
Dark
Recovery

Nomenclature

Names in Other Languages
Language Name Meaning
Japanese スキル継承 Skill inheritance

Gallery

Notes


References

General
  • "Chapter 7: Data", Persona 4 Official Perfect Guide, Famitsu Editorial Staff. Published by Enterbrain (2008). Japanese. p. 291. ISBN-13: 978-4757744561.
  • "Chapter 1: System: Velvet Room", Persona 4 The Golden: The Complete Guide, Compiled by the Dengeki Playstation Editorial Department. Published by ASCII Media Works (2012). Japanese. p. 71. ISBN-13: 978-4048866637.
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