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 After the Investigation Team discover that the fog coating [[Inaba]] is likely the result of the [[TV World|other world]] leaking into the city, they hold a meeting at [[Junes]].<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Kanji Tatsumi:''' Wha--!? G-Guys, put on your glasses! / '''Protagonist <small>(Narration)</small>:''' When you put your glasses on, your vision becomes much clearer... / '''Yukiko Amagi:''' Woah... It's all clear... / '''Yosuke Hanamura:''' Wh-What the hell is going on!? / '''Naoto Shirogane:''' These glasses are meant to help us see through the fog in the other world... But putting that aside, no glasses would help improve one's visibility in a fog, under normal circumstances. / '''Chie Satonaka:''' Then, umm... Could the fog from over there be leaking into our world...? Huh? Y-You guys think that's it!? I-I was kinda expecting you to ignore it as Chie being random again... I-It's just a thought... Haha... / '''Protagonist <small>(Narration)</small>:''' The mood darkens... / '''Yosuke Hanamura:''' Anyways... Today's the last day of exams, right? Let's get 'em over with so we can meet up at the special headquarters after school.|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> There, Naoto reads a summary of [[Taro Namatame|Namatame]]'s career aloud, with some details regarding the case included within.<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Naoto Shirogane:''' There's another item of note here... A summary of Namatame's career, with details about the case. "...The suspect was having an affair with the first victim. It seems she was killed due to relationship troubles. Also in April, Ms. Saki Konishi's body was discovered. The police are looking into a motive for the murder. In July, a boy living in Inaba performed a copycat murder. The boy was initially thought to be the culprit behind all the killings, but later suspicion was thrown upon Namatame. Last month, the suspect attempted to kidnap a seven-year-old girl of Inaba, resulting in his arrest...|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> The Investigation Team discuss the end of the case, and the possibility that Namatame would not be convicted is brought up. Naoto confirms that it is not impossible that Namatame will escape punishment.<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Yukiko Amagi:''' Also, I heard before that if police don't have enough hard evidence, it's difficult to build a case. / '''Naoto Shirogane:''' Yes... There are many such cases and culprits. It's the eternal conundrum for crime investigators... / '''Kanji Tatsumi:''' So even if they're caught... the law can't do shit? / '''Naoto Shirogane:''' ...It's a possibility.|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref>
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-Later that day, the Investigation Team go to the hospital, as [[Nanako Dojima|Nanako]]'s condition has gotten worse. Some time after arriving, Nanako passes away, and the group goes to Namatame's hosptial room. There, they find him on the floor near an open window and they assume that he is trying to escape, though their yelling is interrupted by the Midnight Channel coming on the TV in the room.<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Protagonist <small>(Narration)</small>:''' The window in the room is wide open... / '''Protagonist <small>(Dialogue option)</small>:''' What are you doing? / '''Taro Namatame:''' I-I was scared... So I... I... / '''Yosuke Hanamura:''' You have your life... and now you want your freedom, too!? / '''Chie Satonaka:''' It's your fault that Nanako-chan's...! / '''Taro Namatame:''' I-I, I didn't, I... / '''Rise Kujikawa:''' 12 o'clock... Is it the midnight channel?|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> Namatame's Shadow appears on the TV, with Naoto being the first to point out that Namatame had never faced his other self.<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Naoto Shirogane:''' No... Come to think of it, Namatame never faced his other self. And we didn't witness his Shadow returning to his body as a Persona, either... Perhaps that's why we're seeing this now...|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> Naoto notes the room as being a luxury one, as the TV in the room is larger than what one would usually have in a hospital room. She mentions that because of this, Namatame could escape into the other world at any time, though she also suggests that the group should weaponize this by pushing him into the TV themselves- should Namatame enter into the other world, he would not be able to escape, and eventually, he would die.<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Naoto Shirogane:''' This must be a luxury suite. Most hospital wards don't have such large televisions... Why, with something like this in the room, this man could escape at any time... Although once he enters... he may find there's no way out...|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> The group bicker among themselves as some consider the idea, though the argument ends after the [[Yu Narukami|Protagonist]] tells everyone to calm down. Once they have, Naoto rescinds her prior words, stating that she was not thinking as she should have, as well as noting that they had not actually heard Namatame's perspective.<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Naoto Shirogane:''' You're right... We should calm down and think rationally about this... I realize now we've heard almost nothing from Namatame's perspective... There's no denying that this man brought great harm to Nanako-chan... But other than that point, the rest comes from our assumptions based on watching the Midnight Channel a moment ago. I won't deny that we were blinded by the heat of the moment... trying to impute all responsibility to him rashly.|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> She also mentions a few reservations she has regarding this being the end of the case, but suggests that the group return another day to question Namatame, as he is not currently in a state fit for interrogation.<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Naoto Shirogane:''' Truthfully, not all the hitches that were nagging at me have been answered yet. We'll have to see what he can tell us about them... ...Though it appears he's in no condition to do so at the moment.|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> As they leave the room, Naoto elaborates on her doubts, stating that Namatame still doesn't seem to have a motive for the first two incidents in the case, the deaths of [[Mayumi Yamano]] and [[Saki Konishi]].<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Naoto Shirogane:''' The police speculated that the first murder was related to the affair, so they called Namatame in for questioning... But everything in his testimony and his bearing... No matter what they looked at, they found nothing suspicious. If he truly is twisted enough to believe that murder is a means of saving people, I think that would have shone through... / '''Yosuke Hanamura:''' Maybe he faked it real well. Or maybe he started out with a normal motive, and got a taste for killing after the first time. / '''Naoto Shirogane:''' No...  If that were the case, his motive for killing the announcer would be even more inexplicable. Namatame and his wife were separated at the time. Both Misuzu Hiiragi and himself testified that she had discarded him. Hiiragi also knew about Yamano beforehand, and Namatame was shocked to hear of Yamano's death. Their relationship was known, and was not strained to the point of murder... There's simply no motive in the affair angle. The police invested a great deal into investigating this point. Therefore, we have no convincing motive for Namatame to kill Mayumi Yamano... Although... Her name was written in Namatame's own diary...|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref>
+Later that day, the Investigation Team go to the hospital, as [[Nanako Dojima|Nanako]]'s condition has gotten worse. Some time after arriving, Nanako passes away, and the group goes to Namatame's hospital room. There, they find him on the floor near an open window and they assume that he is trying to escape, though their yelling is interrupted by the Midnight Channel coming on the TV in the room.<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Protagonist <small>(Narration)</small>:''' The window in the room is wide open... / '''Protagonist <small>(Dialogue option)</small>:''' What are you doing? / '''Taro Namatame:''' I-I was scared... So I... I... / '''Yosuke Hanamura:''' You have your life... and now you want your freedom, too!? / '''Chie Satonaka:''' It's your fault that Nanako-chan's...! / '''Taro Namatame:''' I-I, I didn't, I... / '''Rise Kujikawa:''' 12 o'clock... Is it the midnight channel?|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> Namatame's Shadow appears on the TV, with Naoto being the first to point out that Namatame had never faced his other self.<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Naoto Shirogane:''' No... Come to think of it, Namatame never faced his other self. And we didn't witness his Shadow returning to his body as a Persona, either... Perhaps that's why we're seeing this now...|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> Naoto notes the room as being a luxury one, as the TV in the room is larger than what one would usually have in a hospital room. She mentions that because of this, Namatame could escape into the other world at any time, though she also suggests that the group should weaponize this by pushing him into the TV themselves- should Namatame enter into the other world, he would not be able to escape, and eventually, he would die.<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Naoto Shirogane:''' This must be a luxury suite. Most hospital wards don't have such large televisions... Why, with something like this in the room, this man could escape at any time... Although once he enters... he may find there's no way out...|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> The group bicker among themselves as some consider the idea, though the argument ends after the [[Yu Narukami|Protagonist]] tells everyone to calm down. Once they have, Naoto rescinds her prior words, stating that she was not thinking as she should have, as well as noting that they had not actually heard Namatame's perspective.<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Naoto Shirogane:''' You're right... We should calm down and think rationally about this... I realize now we've heard almost nothing from Namatame's perspective... There's no denying that this man brought great harm to Nanako-chan... But other than that point, the rest comes from our assumptions based on watching the Midnight Channel a moment ago. I won't deny that we were blinded by the heat of the moment... trying to impute all responsibility to him rashly.|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> She also mentions a few reservations she has regarding this being the end of the case, but suggests that the group return another day to question Namatame, as he is not currently in a state fit for interrogation.<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Naoto Shirogane:''' Truthfully, not all the hitches that were nagging at me have been answered yet. We'll have to see what he can tell us about them... ...Though it appears he's in no condition to do so at the moment.|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> As they leave the room, Naoto elaborates on her doubts, stating that Namatame still doesn't seem to have a motive for the first two incidents in the case, the deaths of [[Mayumi Yamano]] and [[Saki Konishi]].<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Naoto Shirogane:''' The police speculated that the first murder was related to the affair, so they called Namatame in for questioning... But everything in his testimony and his bearing... No matter what they looked at, they found nothing suspicious. If he truly is twisted enough to believe that murder is a means of saving people, I think that would have shone through... / '''Yosuke Hanamura:''' Maybe he faked it real well. Or maybe he started out with a normal motive, and got a taste for killing after the first time. / '''Naoto Shirogane:''' No...  If that were the case, his motive for killing the announcer would be even more inexplicable. Namatame and his wife were separated at the time. Both Misuzu Hiiragi and himself testified that she had discarded him. Hiiragi also knew about Yamano beforehand, and Namatame was shocked to hear of Yamano's death. Their relationship was known, and was not strained to the point of murder... There's simply no motive in the affair angle. The police invested a great deal into investigating this point. Therefore, we have no convincing motive for Namatame to kill Mayumi Yamano... Although... Her name was written in Namatame's own diary...|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref>
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 The next day, the Investigation Team meet at Junes again. Initially, the meeting is held to discuss [[Teddie]], as he had gone missing the night before, but Naoto brings attention to the case, due to their limited time to investigate.<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Naoto Shirogane:''' I'm worried for Teddie myself, but let's trust in him and await his return. Right now, we must concentrate on this case. It won't be long before Namatame is transferred to another location. We must hurry, or we will miss our only chance to get his perspective on this.|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> Naoto recounts what they know about the case, and tells the group that [[Mitsuo Kubo]] was officially acknowledged as a copycat killer after Namatame's arrest.<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Naoto Shirogane:''' Let's quickly review the facts. Of all the victims, only two were killed: Ms. Yamano, the announcer, and Saki-san. From the documents we found in the car, we know Namatame had some sort of dealings with them. After that, there were multiple attempted murders, in which we were targeted... It was only after he took Nanako-chan that we caught him in the act, identifying his modus operandi in the process. / '''Kanji Tatsumi:''' When I hear you put it like that, sounds like the dude's guilty. / '''Naoto Shirogane:''' As a result of Namatame's arrest, the police admitted that Mitsuo Kubo was a mere copycat killer.|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> The conversation continues on, and the topic of why Namatame phrases certain things the way he does is brought up. Naoto theorizes that his use of the word "save" in reference to his actions towards all those he kidnapped could imply that Namatame intended to "save" them through death,<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Yosuke Hanamura:''' When he talks about "saving" people, what does that actually mean? I don't think there's any doubt that it includes kidnapping people and throwing them into the TV. / '''Naoto Shirogane:''' Could he mean... saving them through death...? He did call himself a "savior," and saif that the other world is a "wonderful world."|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> though they also entertain the idea that Namatame truly was intending to save them from something.<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Yukiko Amagi:''' There's something I've been wondering about for a while. When we first encountered him, he said... "You're the ones I saved. Don't worry, I'll save this little girl too..." So, um... If he "saves" people by killing them, did he save us too? Wouldn't he actually have failed to save us...? / '''Naoto Shirogane:''' You raise a good point. If he thinks that salvation comes only through death, his words to us make no sense... And another thing... The Namatame who appeared on the Midnight Channel said that he failed to save Nanako-chan. / '''Chie Satonaka:''' Well, maybe he really was trying to save the victims by putting them inside the TV. C-C'mon, don't get all quiet like that.... You guys know I just say the first dumb thing that pops into my head... Haha... / '''Naoto Shirogane:''' The possibility that he truly intended to save us all...|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> This line of thinking, however, calls into question why he would kill Mayumi Yamano and Saki Konishi if he were trying to save them, though they wonder if someone else could be involved in those incidents.<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Yosuke Hanamura:''' But he's still the one who threw in Saki-senpai and that announcer, right!? Sure, we haven't nailed down his motives, but that doesn't change the fact that he killed them. Or what, you think someone else was involved? What makes you think so?|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> The Protagonist brings up the letters sent to him by the culprit, and call into question the wording the culprit used.<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Protagonist <small>(Narration)</small>:''' The possibility of a culprit besides Namatame... Could there be something that proves this possibility...? / '''Protagonist <small>(Dialogue option)</small>:''' The warning letter. / '''Yosuke Hanamura:''' Warning letter...? Oh yeah... Whatever happened to that thing? / '''Chie Satonaka:''' If Namatame's the killer, he must have been the one who wrote it, right? / '''Naoto Shirogane:''' Let's review them. / '''Protagonist <small>(Narration)</small>:''' You recall that the first warning letter said, "dont rescue anymore"... And the second one said, "if you dont stop this time, someone close will be put in and killed"... / '''Naoto Shirogane:''' Yes, that's right. / '''Rise Kujikawa:''' Isn't that kinda odd? Would someone who thinks he's saving people by killing them write stuff like "don't rescue" or "kill"? / '''Kanji Tatsumi:''' Yeah, and the "will be put in and killed" part doesn't make sense either. If the killer was writing it, wouldn't it be more like "I'll put in and kill"?|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> In the end, the group realize that it is possible that Mayumi Yamano and Saki Konishi were killed by someone seperate from Namatame, and they head to the hospital to interrogate Namatame so they can say for certain whether or not the theory is true.<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Yosuke Hanamura:''' Someone else... Then... It wasn't Namatame that killed Saki-senpai and the announcer? / '''Naoto Shirogane:''' We can't say that for certain yet... We urgently need to speak to Namatame face to  face...|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref>
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 Upon defeating the deity, Adachi reappears, and the group have a brief conversation regarding the possibility of Ameno-sagiri controlling Adachi, in which Naoto states that she believes it was partially of his own volition.<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Chie Satonaka:''' You think... it was controlling Adachi-san? / '''Naoto Shirogane:''' Who can say...? I believe it was at least partially his own intention as well.|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> After bringing Adachi out of the TV, Naoto handles most affairs with the police,<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Policeman:''' Greetings, Shirogane-san. We got word from Detective Dojima. He's wanted on suspicion of murdering Mayumi Yamano and Saki Konishi, right? / '''Naoto Shirogane:''' Correct. / '''Policeman:''' Understood. We have an ambulance waiting downstairs. Should we have them bring the stretcher up here? / '''Naoto Shirogane:''' An ambulance... / '''Policeman:''' Detective Dojima assumed one would be necessary. He wanted the suspect to be carefully taken into protective custody. It... Well, it was a personal favor to him. / '''Chie Satonaka:''' They were partners, after all... / '''Tohru Adachi:''' ...... / '''Naoto Shirogane:''' Then yes, please have them bring up the stretcher. / '''Policeman:''' Understood.|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> and leaves with the rest of her peers to see if Ameno-sagiri's defeat had brought any change to [[Inaba]].
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 ====March, 2012====
 On '''March 20, 2012''', Naoto comes to [[Junes]]' food court alongside the rest of the Investigation Team, as she had been feeling restless.<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Naoto Shirogane:''' We were planning on seeing you off at the station tomorrow... But I was feeling too restless, so I decided to come here.|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> Alongside the rest of the group, she reminisces about the case, mentioning that [[Ameno-sagiri]] had provided them with their powers so that they can act as pawns in the deity's scheme.<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Naoto Shirogane:''' "I bestowed power onto those who could brave the hollow forest." In other words, he gave the power to enter TVs to those who awakened their Persona ability... So that he might use us as pawns to enact his scheme.|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> After she mentions this, [[Chie Satonaka|Chie]] wonders why the [[Yu Narukami|Protagonist]] was able to enter the TV before awakening to his [[Persona (Concept)|Persona]],<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Chie Satonaka:''' Hey, that reminds me... Didn't your hand suddenly slip into the TV even before anything happened to you?|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> which leads Naoto to ask the Protagonist if he had met anyone suspicious during his first day in Inaba.<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Chie Satonaka:''' So you think the person Adachi mentioned, the one who told him about the Midnight Channel, is that conductor? Uhhh... Did I strike gold again? I-It's seriously just something that popped into my head! / '''Naoto Shirogane:''' Senpai, is there anything like that you can think of?|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref> Naoto suggests that the group split up to search for clues, and that the Protagonist should contact them should he find anything of note.<ref>{{Cite Game|quote='''Naoto Shirogane:''' Let's go out into town. We might find something. Although... you may be the only one capable of noticing it. Please contact the rest of us, should you come across anything.|title={{Link|Game|P4}}|developer=ATLUS|publisher=ATLUS|platform=|version=|lang=|transl=}}</ref>

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