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:Our current policy is that SMT3 and 5 are not necessarily connected due this excerpt (――『V』に関しては、 『真・女神転生III』の世界とのつながりも感じるところはあります。 / 小森: 実際に『V』のゲーム中に『III』 に関連する要素をちりばめていますからね。まあ『真・女神転生Ⅲ-NOCTURNEマニアクス』のときに「アマラ宇宙」 とい多次元概念を出していますから。/ ――つながっているともとれるし、独立し世界かもしれないと。/ 小森: バックグラウンドとして『Ⅲ』は人がコトワリを見つけ、神の半身を宿して創世を行うというお話で、 一方 『V』は人と神が合わさりナホピノになり創世を行うわけですから、 ものすごく似ている世界とはいえますね......。) from an interview with Shigeo Komori in 怪と幽 (KWAI & yoo), volume 17. With that in mind, any mentions like that would probably belong in their trivia sections.<br><span class="plainlinks" style="color:white; background:#ff8abf; display:inline-block; padding:5px 15px 7px 15px; border-radius:15px; vertical-align:middle;"><span style="padding-bottom:2px; display:inline-block;">[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCccOm7T9oeucynFYP-eggew <span style="color:#000000">ଘ(੭ˊᵕˋ)੭* ੈ‧˚✩‧₊˚ ♡</span>]</span><br><span style="word-spacing: 5px;">[[File:SMT1_Demon_Icon_Sprite.png|28px|link=]]''' [[User:Capes|<span style="color:#ffffff">Capes</span>]]'''</span><span style="color:#ffffff"><small> ('''[[User talk:Capes|<span style="color:#ffffff">talk</span>]]''')</small></span></span> 13:13, 9 December 2024 (UTC) | :Our current policy is that SMT3 and 5 are not necessarily connected due this excerpt (――『V』に関しては、 『真・女神転生III』の世界とのつながりも感じるところはあります。 / 小森: 実際に『V』のゲーム中に『III』 に関連する要素をちりばめていますからね。まあ『真・女神転生Ⅲ-NOCTURNEマニアクス』のときに「アマラ宇宙」 とい多次元概念を出していますから。/ ――つながっているともとれるし、独立し世界かもしれないと。/ 小森: バックグラウンドとして『Ⅲ』は人がコトワリを見つけ、神の半身を宿して創世を行うというお話で、 一方 『V』は人と神が合わさりナホピノになり創世を行うわけですから、 ものすごく似ている世界とはいえますね......。) from an interview with Shigeo Komori in 怪と幽 (KWAI & yoo), volume 17. With that in mind, any mentions like that would probably belong in their trivia sections.<br><span class="plainlinks" style="color:white; background:#ff8abf; display:inline-block; padding:5px 15px 7px 15px; border-radius:15px; vertical-align:middle;"><span style="padding-bottom:2px; display:inline-block;">[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCccOm7T9oeucynFYP-eggew <span style="color:#000000">ଘ(੭ˊᵕˋ)੭* ੈ‧˚✩‧₊˚ ♡</span>]</span><br><span style="word-spacing: 5px;">[[File:SMT1_Demon_Icon_Sprite.png|28px|link=]]''' [[User:Capes|<span style="color:#ffffff">Capes</span>]]'''</span><span style="color:#ffffff"><small> ('''[[User talk:Capes|<span style="color:#ffffff">talk</span>]]''')</small></span></span> 13:13, 9 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
::From my reading of this excerpt, they're saying that the worlds of 3 and 5 are distinctly separate yet connected universes, and characters are shown to interact with other universes such as the Demi-fiend and Lucifer's own statements from ''Vengence'' directly connecting the Lucifer from 3 to the Lucifer in 5; "Two youths whose fates I espied... One became the great demon of prophecy, and the other a god returned from legend. How vivid this dark and light..." This is Lucifer directly saying that he is the one responsible for both the creation of the Demi-fiend and Nahobino, so at the very least confirmed to be the same character across two distinct worlds. [[User:Herekit]] ([[User talk:Herekit|talk]]) 23:53, 9 December 2024 (AEST) | ::From my reading of this excerpt, they're saying that the worlds of 3 and 5 are distinctly separate yet connected universes, and characters are shown to interact with other universes such as the Demi-fiend and Lucifer's own statements from ''Vengence'' directly connecting the Lucifer from 3 to the Lucifer in 5; "Two youths whose fates I espied... One became the great demon of prophecy, and the other a god returned from legend. How vivid this dark and light..." This is Lucifer directly saying that he is the one responsible for both the creation of the Demi-fiend and Nahobino, so at the very least confirmed to be the same character across two distinct worlds. [[User:Herekit]] ([[User talk:Herekit|talk]]) 23:53, 9 December 2024 (AEST) | ||
:::Sorry for taking so long with no response, I had to discuss the issue with staff. The consensus was that despite strong narrative connections, the intent was still to keep them somewhat vague so readers shouldn't be led in any specific direction. The topic should be covered thoroughly, but avoid definitive statements and, if necessary, fourth wall breaks would be allowed as an exception to clarify that it's open to interpretation.<br><span class="plainlinks" style="color:white; background:#ff8abf; display:inline-block; padding:5px 15px 7px 15px; border-radius:15px; vertical-align:middle;"><span style="padding-bottom:2px; display:inline-block;">[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCccOm7T9oeucynFYP-eggew <span style="color:#000000">ଘ(੭ˊᵕˋ)੭* ੈ‧˚✩‧₊˚ ♡</span>]</span><br><span style="word-spacing: 5px;">[[File:SMT1_Demon_Icon_Sprite.png|28px|link=]]''' [[User:Capes|<span style="color:#ffffff">Capes</span>]]'''</span><span style="color:#ffffff"><small> ('''[[User talk:Capes|<span style="color:#ffffff">talk</span>]]''')</small></span></span> 11:06, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 11:06, 18 December 2024
Due to the connections between Shin Megami Tensei V and Shin Megami Tensei III, should there be any acknowledgement of the implied / potential connections between The Great Will in Nocturne and The Creator in V? User:Herekit (talk) 23:24, 9 December 2024 (AEST)
- Our current policy is that SMT3 and 5 are not necessarily connected due this excerpt (――『V』に関しては、 『真・女神転生III』の世界とのつながりも感じるところはあります。 / 小森: 実際に『V』のゲーム中に『III』 に関連する要素をちりばめていますからね。まあ『真・女神転生Ⅲ-NOCTURNEマニアクス』のときに「アマラ宇宙」 とい多次元概念を出していますから。/ ――つながっているともとれるし、独立し世界かもしれないと。/ 小森: バックグラウンドとして『Ⅲ』は人がコトワリを見つけ、神の半身を宿して創世を行うというお話で、 一方 『V』は人と神が合わさりナホピノになり創世を行うわけですから、 ものすごく似ている世界とはいえますね......。) from an interview with Shigeo Komori in 怪と幽 (KWAI & yoo), volume 17. With that in mind, any mentions like that would probably belong in their trivia sections.
ଘ(੭ˊᵕˋ)੭* ੈ‧˚✩‧₊˚ ♡
Capes (talk) 13:13, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- From my reading of this excerpt, they're saying that the worlds of 3 and 5 are distinctly separate yet connected universes, and characters are shown to interact with other universes such as the Demi-fiend and Lucifer's own statements from Vengence directly connecting the Lucifer from 3 to the Lucifer in 5; "Two youths whose fates I espied... One became the great demon of prophecy, and the other a god returned from legend. How vivid this dark and light..." This is Lucifer directly saying that he is the one responsible for both the creation of the Demi-fiend and Nahobino, so at the very least confirmed to be the same character across two distinct worlds. User:Herekit (talk) 23:53, 9 December 2024 (AEST)
- Sorry for taking so long with no response, I had to discuss the issue with staff. The consensus was that despite strong narrative connections, the intent was still to keep them somewhat vague so readers shouldn't be led in any specific direction. The topic should be covered thoroughly, but avoid definitive statements and, if necessary, fourth wall breaks would be allowed as an exception to clarify that it's open to interpretation.
ଘ(੭ˊᵕˋ)੭* ੈ‧˚✩‧₊˚ ♡ Capes (talk) 11:06, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry for taking so long with no response, I had to discuss the issue with staff. The consensus was that despite strong narrative connections, the intent was still to keep them somewhat vague so readers shouldn't be led in any specific direction. The topic should be covered thoroughly, but avoid definitive statements and, if necessary, fourth wall breaks would be allowed as an exception to clarify that it's open to interpretation.
- From my reading of this excerpt, they're saying that the worlds of 3 and 5 are distinctly separate yet connected universes, and characters are shown to interact with other universes such as the Demi-fiend and Lucifer's own statements from Vengence directly connecting the Lucifer from 3 to the Lucifer in 5; "Two youths whose fates I espied... One became the great demon of prophecy, and the other a god returned from legend. How vivid this dark and light..." This is Lucifer directly saying that he is the one responsible for both the creation of the Demi-fiend and Nahobino, so at the very least confirmed to be the same character across two distinct worlds. User:Herekit (talk) 23:53, 9 December 2024 (AEST)