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{{DISPLAYTITLE:Alignment (''Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance'')}}{{Research|reason=I did not play SMT5V in English and this information comes from the JP SMT5V guide, so some of the quest names and options are translations of what is in the Japanese game. Will need to be updated with what the game says in English.}}
{{DISPLAYTITLE:Alignment (''Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance'')}}{{Research|reason=The information on this page comes from the Japanese SMT5V guide book. Some of the responses/options are translations from Japanese and need to be updated with the English localization.}}
This page covers the '''[[Alignment]] mechanics''' in {{Link|Game|SMT5V}}.
This page covers the '''[[Alignment]] mechanics''' in {{Link|Game|SMT5V}}.


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||Clear ''The Spirit of Love''||Preservation
||Clear ''The Spirit of Love''||Preservation
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|rowspan=2|Secondary||rowspan=2|Talk to Principality after accepting [[Those Seeking Sanctuary]]||Talk about it||N/A
|rowspan=2|Secondary||rowspan=2|Talk to Principality after accepting [[Those Seeking Sanctuary]]||Defeat Principality||Reformation
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||Defeat Principality||Reformation
||Talk to him||N/A
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|rowspan=3|Primary||rowspan=3|Event: Answering Yakumo||God's word is needed||Preservation
|rowspan=3|Primary||rowspan=3|Event: Answering Yakumo||Order is essential for peace||Preservation
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||It's not needed||Reformation
||Order gets in the way||Reformation
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||I don't know||N/A
||I don't know||N/A
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|rowspan=2|Secondary||rowspan=2|Event: Chasing Lahmu||Help her||Preservation
|rowspan=2|Secondary||rowspan=2|Event: Chasing Lahmu||We have to help her||Preservation
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||Defeat Lahmu||Reformation
||We have to defeat Lahmu||Reformation
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|rowspan=2|Secondary||rowspan=2|[[A Wish for a Fish]]||Finish him off and take the fish||Reformation
|rowspan=2|Secondary||rowspan=2|[[A Wish for a Fish]]||Finish him off and take the fish||Reformation
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||Don't eat it||Preservation
||Don't eat it||Preservation
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|rowspan=2|Primary||rowspan=2|Event: Decisive battle with Lahmu||We need to challenge Lahmu||Reformation
|rowspan=2|Primary||rowspan=2|Event: Decisive battle with Lahmu||We have to take down Lahmu||Reformation
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||Rescuing her takes priority||Preservation
||We prioritize rescuing her||Preservation
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|rowspan=2|Secondary||rowspan=2|Clear [[Black Frost Strikes Back]] or [[A Sobering Standoff]]||Clear ''Black Frost Strikes Back''||Reformation
|rowspan=2|Secondary||rowspan=2|Clear [[Black Frost Strikes Back]] or [[A Sobering Standoff]]||Clear ''Black Frost Strikes Back''||Reformation
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||Sacrifices should be avoided||Reformation
||Sacrifices should be avoided||Reformation
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|rowspan=3|Secondary||rowspan=3|Event: Aogami asks about the organization vs the person||We should participate||Preservation
|rowspan=3|Secondary||rowspan=3|Event: Aogami asks about the organization vs the person||We ought to do our part||Preservation
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||Well, Bethel ordered it||N/A
||I didn't get a choice in the matter||N/A
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||I don't want to participate||Reformation
||Honestly, I don't want to do it||Reformation
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|rowspan=2|Secondary||rowspan=2|Event: Aogami asks if demons are unnecessary||You did save me||Preservation
|rowspan=2|Secondary||rowspan=2|Event: Aogami asks if demons are unnecessary||You've been a great help||Preservation
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||They are pretty annoying||Reformation
||You've certainly made life complicated||Reformation
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|rowspan=2|Primary||rowspan=2|Event: The Demon King's question||Order is something we must uphold ourselves||Preservation
|rowspan=2|Primary||rowspan=2|Event: The Demon King's question||God's order will never die||Preservation
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||Don't really care about it||Reformation
||Fine by me||Reformation
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|rowspan=2|Primary||rowspan=2|Event: Odin; What do you think of this world?||I have some sentiments about it||Preservation
|rowspan=2|Primary||rowspan=2|Event: Odin asks what you think of this world||I'm attached to it||Preservation
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||It needs to be remade||Reformation
||It must be rebuilt from scratch||Reformation
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|rowspan=2|Secondary||rowspan=2|Clear [[The Raid on Tokyo]] or [[In Defense of Tokyo]]||Clear ''The Raid on Tokyo''||Reformation
|rowspan=2|Secondary||rowspan=2|Clear [[The Raid on Tokyo]] or [[In Defense of Tokyo]]||Clear ''The Raid on Tokyo''||Reformation
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! Event !! Choice !! Route
! Event !! Choice !! Route
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|rowspan=3|Choice made in Empyrean || Maintain God's order || Preservation
|rowspan=3|Choice made in Empyrean || I will uphold God's Order || Preservation
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|Save Tokyo || Reformation
|I will recreate the world and save Tokyo|| Reformation
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|Destroy the throne || Humanity
|I will destroy the throne || Humanity
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|rowspan=2|Choice made during the Humanity route || Destroy the throne || Humanity
|rowspan=2|Choice made during the Humanity route || I will destroy the throne || Humanity
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|Create a world only for humans || True Humanity, fight an empowered Lucifer as the final boss
|Create a world for humanity alone|| True Humanity, fight an empowered Lucifer as the final boss
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The "Create a world only for humans" option only appears if the Nahobino has completed Ra, Fionn, and Shiva's sidequests.
The "Create a world only for humans" option only appears if the Nahobino has completed Ra, Fionn, and Shiva's sidequests.


If the Nahobino's final alignment does not match the route he picks for the ending, then he will be unable to obtain a certain Miracle.
If the Nahobino's final alignment does not match the route he picks for the ending, then he will be unable to obtain the [[#Exclusive Miracles|alignment exclusive miracle]].


==Canon of Vengeance==
==Canon of Vengeance==
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||Clear ''The Spirit of Love''|||Preservation +1
||Clear ''The Spirit of Love''|||Preservation +1
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|rowspan=2|Event: Chasing Lahmu||Help her|||Preservation +1
|rowspan=2|Event: Chasing Lahmu||We have to help her||Preservation +1
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||Defeat Lahmu||Reformation +1
||We have to defeat Lahmu||Reformation +1
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|rowspan=2|[[A Wish for a Fish]]||Finish him off and take the fish||Reformation +1
|rowspan=2|[[A Wish for a Fish]]||Finish him off and take the fish||Reformation +1
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||Leave him alone|||Preservation +1
||Leave him alone|||Preservation +1
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|rowspan=2|Talk to Principality after accepting [[Those Seeking Sanctuary]]||Talk about it||N/A
|rowspan=2|Talk to Principality after accepting [[Those Seeking Sanctuary]]||Defeat Principality||Reformation +1
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||Defeat Principality||Reformation +1
||Talk to him||N/A
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|rowspan=2|Clear [[Those Seeking Sanctuary]] or [[Holding the Line]]||Clear ''Those Seeking Sanctuary''||Reformation +1
|rowspan=2|Clear [[Those Seeking Sanctuary]] or [[Holding the Line]]||Clear ''Those Seeking Sanctuary''||Reformation +1
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|rowspan=2|Event: After fighting Yuzuru||I think it's bright|||Preservation +3
|rowspan=2|Event: After fighting Yuzuru||I think it's bright|||Preservation +3
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||I don't count on it||Reformation +3
||I can't count on it||Reformation +3
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|rowspan=2|[[The Horn of Plenty]]||Sacrifices are necessary|||Preservation +1
|rowspan=2|[[The Horn of Plenty]]||Sacrifices are necessary|||Preservation +1
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||Sacrifices should be avoided||Reformation +1
||Sacrifices should be avoided||Reformation +1
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|rowspan=2|Event: Yuzuru's reflection||I think I can believe|||Preservation +3
|rowspan=2|Event: Yuzuru's reflection||I think I can believe|||Preservation +3 <!--translation; needs english loc-->
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||I can't really believe||Reformation +3
||I can't really believe||Reformation +3 <!--translation; needs english loc-->
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|rowspan=2|Event: After defeating Mara||I understand|||Preservation +1
|rowspan=2|Event: After defeating Mara||I understand|||Preservation +1
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||Despair at humanity's past||Reformation +3
||Despair at humanity's past||Reformation +3
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|rowspan=2|In the throne room (Only if Nahobino is human alignment)||I believed it would come||Reformation +3
|rowspan=2|In the throne room (Only if Nahobino is human alignment)||I believed it would come||Reformation +3 <!--translation; needs english loc-->
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||That can't come to pass|||Preservation +3
||That can't come to pass|||Preservation +3 <!--translation; needs english loc-->
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==Exclusive Miracles==
==Exclusive Miracles==


{{Research|reason=Regarding Vengeance: The alignment section of the guide book says that it's 12 points w/a single alignment to unlock Ranking/Succession; 16 points from alignment choices overall to unlock both. However, the Temple of Eternity section says it's complete 6 of 11 side quests and be on a route for Ranking/Succession; complete 10 of 11 side quests for both.}}
{{Research|reason=Regarding Vengeance: The alignment section of the guide book says that it's 12 points w/a single alignment plus be on an ending path to unlock Ranking or Succession; 16 points from alignment choices overall to unlock both. However, the Temple of Eternity section says it's complete 6 of 11 side quests and be on a route for Ranking or Succession; complete 10 of 11 side quests for both.}}


Nahobino's alignment determines the availability of certain Miracles. He gains this at the end of the Temple of Eternity.
Nahobino's alignment determines which special [[Miracle]] he gets. He gains this after the throne room.


In Creation, this is determined by the internal alignment (from choices) and the selected ending matching one another.
In Creation, this is determined by the internal alignment (from choices) and the selected ending matching one another.
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! Miracle !! Creation !! Vengeance
! Miracle !! Creation !! Vengeance
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| Violation of Ranking{{Exp|Removes the level restriction when fusing demons}} || Preservation alignment and ending || Make 12 Preservation aligned selections and be on the Peaceful Route, or make 16+ selections overall and be on either route
| Rank Violation{{Exp|Removes the level restriction when fusing demons}} || Preservation alignment and ending || Make 12 Preservation aligned selections and be on the Peaceful Route, or make 16+ selections overall and be on either route
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| Violation of Succession{{Exp|Demon's innate skills can be replaced by inherited skills when fusing}} || Reformation alignment and ending || Make 12 Reformation aligned selections and be on the Apocalypse Route, or make 16+ selections overall and be on either route
| Inheritance Violation{{Exp|Demon's innate skills can be replaced by inherited skills when fusing}} || Reformation alignment and ending || Make 12 Reformation aligned selections and be on the Apocalypse Route, or make 16+ selections overall and be on either route
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